In the early days of Lotus, he was picketed by RMS and his people about patents, and all he could think was, "Who are these people?" He sees that the adoption of opensource has grown hugely since then. Billions of people using it and don't even know that they are. We're still mid way through with the end nowhere in sight.

There's been a big movement from margin to mainstream within a human generation. What have we learnt from this? Two points. 1. Something enormously empowering about it especially to people who are marginalised. 2. Society needs communities that manage themselves in a non-hierarchical way - democracy Developers are wizards and everyone else are Muggles, and we're not making it understandable or usable for them.